Did you get a PS5 for Christmas? (pic: Sony)
The Thursday letters page welcomes everyone back after the new year break, as one reader recommends Etrian Odyssey on the 3DS eShop.
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Change of plan
Over the last couple of years I’ve seen a lot of people talk about selling their PlayStation 5 or Xbox Series X almost as soon as getting it, like the video game equivalent of buying a puppy for Christmas. I always thought these people were overreacting or probably not even being serious, and just trying to make a point in the console wars. And yet suddenly I find myself in a similar situation.
I got a PlayStation 5 for Christmas and to be honest even before the big day I was beginning to think it was a mistake. I’ve been saving for most of the year and while the cost of the console was relatively easy to cover, with some patience, I was naturally concerned about the cost of games and future upgrades. The recent Reader’s Feature about saving money on video games during the cost of living crisis core struck a chord with me and underlined the difficulties in paying for gaming at the moment.
It’s not any one thing but the commitment to the ecosystem and the constant temptation to not only buy everything but to do so day one or close to it. I’ve already beaten God Of War and am a good way through Horizon Forbidden West, and that alone represents over £100 worth of games. At the same time, I’ve realised I can sell my PlayStation 5 now and lose almost no money – but that’s true in the wider sense too.
I suspect I’ll be back in a year or two, when things hopefully settle down, but for now gaming will be limited to my phone and my not-really-gaming PC. With indie titles I think that’ll be enough and I’ll probably appreciate the PlayStation 5 (or more likely PS5 Pro) after a little break.
Wotan
Satisfying ending
Happy 2023 to you and your readers! I brought in the new year by finally rolling the credits on God Of War Ragnarök, which I thought was mostly excellent. The plot does meander, and I felt it could have been a lot shorter, especially in comparison to the tight ‘get these ashes to that mountain’ story of the 2018 offering, but luckily the brilliant characters and amazing action sustain it and seeing the end of Kratos and Atreus’ story did not disappoint.
My main point thought, is the complete bombastic spectacle of the closing missions. The God Of War games have always had a an immense sense of scale and the Ragnarök finale is up there with the very best the series has to offer.
I don’t want to spoil anything with specific details, but the complete chaos, delivered on a huge scale with excellent boss fights at the end; the culmination of two great games, was just a complete thrill. I rolled those credits pretty much blown away by the gaming session. It’s gaming at its most exhilarating and those two hours or so were just pure fun. It was a pleasure to have played it.
Henshin Agogo
From doubter to fan
I finally finished Elden Ring on Boxing Day after 175 hours of play. I felt like I had finished a marathon, both elated and exhausted. Malenia was particularly hard going but it was such a triumph when I finally worked her out. The whole game was such an amazing, all-consuming experience. I’m already missing its punishing embrace.
I last wrote in when I was at 100 hours, thinking I was nearly finished but there was so much more to see, including some truly brilliant bosses (I particularly loved Radagon, both visually and in terms of mechanics). I said then that I think it would be a better game with some judicious editing and I preferred the structure of the more linear From games. I still stand by these sentiments to an extent, but after playing the full game I no longer think it’s the worst From game.
Bloodborne is still my favourite but Elden Ring is a very close second. It deserves all of the accolades it’s garnered and I will definitely be first in the queue if there’s a sequel. It’s going to be interesting to see what From do next. I’m not convinced yet Armored Core will be for me, but I’d love to see a sci-fi take on the Soulsborne genre. It’d be interesting to see even more alien creature/enemy designs and let Miyazaki’s imagination go wild.
Perhaps it could be a more linear effort to compliment Elden Ring, set on a massive space station or something. Or maybe an open world split into planets, which would help give the game better structure. It’s exciting to think of the possibilities! Bloodborne 2 wouldn’t hurt either.
Ryan O’D
PS: Thanks for your all Christmas coverage and Happy New Year!
GC: Thanks. Unless it’s radically different from all the previous games, Armored Core 6: Fires Of Rubicon will not be anything like Elden Ring or any Soulsborne.
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While stocks last
Just a quick mention that Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2: Record Breaker is only £3.49 on the 3DS store at the moment. That is along with sale prices on several Etrian Odyssey games and Persona Q. These games seem to be reduced in price quite often but given that the 3DS and Wii U online stores are closing in a couple of months I thought it was worth mentioning.
Perhaps before the stores close you might consider doing a feature on games that are only available there and so will be unavailable barring a major update to the Switch store? Some like the 3D Classics collection of Sega and old Nintendo games will presumably be lost for good.
Thanks and apologies if this has already been mentioned, I’m ashamed to say I miss the Inbox sometimes.
NickG
GC: We’ll see what we can do but we’ll say now that Etrian Odyssey 4 is one of the best dungeon crawlers ever and a real staff favourite. Persona Q mixes the mechanics of the series with more typical Shin Megami Tensei role-playing elements.
Personal benefits
I’d just like to respond to Winston’s letter from last year, regarding Game Pass.
I’m glad he admits that you get a lot for your money. As someone who had both PlayStation Plus and Game Pass in parallel for many years, and then got shafted by the PS Plus changeover, I think it’s clear that Game Pass offers better value for money.
What I don’t understand is Winston’s perspective on who Game Pass is unsuccessful for – the gamer? Microsoft? Both? For the gamer it has been exceptional value over the last few years. If it rises in cost, then it is in every subscriber’s gift to terminate their subscription; but that doesn’t wipe out the last few years and the value therein.
Winston’s opinion, sticking up for Sony’s decision to not provide as good value for their subscription services as Microsoft, smells of old school Nintendo vs. Sega fanboy-ism. As a gamer of over 40 years, I would have hoped we’d be beyond that by now.
Anyway, happy gaming.
JH
Car boot sale
Don’t really agree with the Reader’s feature saying trade-in is the best way to save money. The best way to get maximum return on your games is to sell them yourself. On a £60 game the maximum I’ve got in trade-in is £26.
Best thing to do is sell them yourself, if you’re not in any rush to get them sold. On a £60 game you can get round about £50 in cash. If you trade in to CeX or GAME you have to buy from them, whereas if you sell them yourself you can shop around and get the cheapest deal. As the saying goes, cash is king and with cash you can go anywhere.
David
Still reading
Hope everyone had a great Christmas.
Just want to say that the Reader’s Features were excellent. Took me way back and agreed with most views of milestones in gaming.
I have been reading GameCentral since I was a kid, around six or seven? Frantically pressing the colour button to pause on certain pages, can’t remember what it was but the struggle of a page skip on 5/7 was real!
I guess I just wanted to say that even after all these years and dedication to yourselves, I guess I thought that I was getting old and newer gamers where taking over.
The articles I read recently took me back and it was lovely to see us oldies are still around.
Happy new year all!
Changongtheorys (gamertag)/Changingtheories (PSN ID)
PS: My addition would be Alex Kidd In Miracle World on the Master System, Centipede on the Atari 2600, and Dizzy on the Spectrum.
Successful Quest
LTRFTW. I have just received a Meta Quest 2 for Xmas and I am really impressed on how things have moved on from the PlayStation VR and I can only imagine how great the PlayStation VR 2 will be.
What shocked me was to find out that the Quest platform is thriving and as I generally stick to this site, along with IGN and GameSpot, I had no awareness of the VR comeback.
I had assumed the Quest was still like the Oculus Go and was still playing mobile-like experiences, but it is on par or better than the PlayStation VR and having no wires is liberating.
Is there a reason why you don’t seem to cover Quest games and will this change in the future (I can only remember Resident Evil 4 being reviewed)?
Delbot add me!
GC: Since VR is a relatively niche interest we have to limit our coverage to only the most notable titles, but we will be covering the PlayStation VR 2 in detail.
Inbox also-rans
Wow, that concept art for The Last Of Us multiplayer game is pretty shocking! Who would ever have imagine that they’d look… exactly like The Last Of Us. I’m not sure what this slow burn of hype is in aid of but it’s certainly not getting me excited.
Tronce
Happy new year everyone, let’s hope it features a lot less nonsense about Activision Blizzard and a lot more about actual new games (I’m not holding out hope).
Gabbo
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The Thursday letters page welcomes everyone back after the new year break, as one reader recommends Etrian Odyssey on the 3DS eShop.